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the high side public opinion on this. traveled to michigan yesterday. john boehner went on the floor and said i need to see their spending cuts. that's what's going on in the public level. privately staff are working together and the fundamentals remain in place for a deal. don't know if it's before or after christmas or before new years or just after it, but i believe will happen. >> all the vacations are planned, right? >> we've reached one of the weirdest days because speaker boehner came out and said the president has not offered specific spending cuts and the president says we've offered spending cuts and it's gotten to this point of childish points and these guys are saying did not and these guys are saying did, too, and these guys again saying did not. i agree with john. they need to get really close then because then there's a sense of urgency and that's what they feel like they can get the votes to get this done right up to the edge of disaster. >> it's not he said, she said. they have put out spending cuts. >> $600 billion that the president talked about in his proposal. >>
. plus, after the bell, michigan congressman sander levin said going back over the cliff would also bring what he calls a human cliff. he'll join us live to talk about that and why failure to lead now would lead to chaos. all right. i'm being told right now that secretary tim geithner has also joined the meeting and vice president biden is also there as well. we have a whole committee gathering at the white house. >> heavyweights. >> these are the most actively traded stocks at the new york stock exchange right now. stay with us. back in a minute. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power
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